More Dirty Pool

[truthwillsetyoufree]

Indian Springs guy has linked up the woodlandsknow.com site to his blog for the express reason of getting google to point to his idiot blog instead. What a petty little man.

[Candleman]

Indian Springs guy has linked up the woodlandsknow.com site to his blog for the express reason of getting google to point to his idiot blog instead. What a petty little man.


At least he is doing his campaigning without using slander and innuendos. Whether you agree with him or not at least he is doing it in a civil and proffessional manner.

[mdonn76405]

I agree with you about ISG, but I've decided not to fight with these people. Desperate people do desperate things. They are losing ground and they know it. When people read his site like I have, they will realize that on his site is just what is put out by the VOICE. He also doesn't realize that his visit count is me coming to his site several times a day just to see if he has learned to be less than a pawn. So be nice and continue to try to educate the public to the real facts.

Also realize that some of the people supporting him don't even live in The Woodlands. Send me a PM and I'll tell you who.

Mike

[mdonn76405]

I couldn't find it truth, but hey ask him to do it with my site too.

http://position11.blogspot.com/

He has 116 hits. I get more than that in a day.
I wouldn't let it bother you.

[triadmiss]

Because we consider you a bit of a clown and can't wait to see what you will do next? It is entertaining. Don't get your hopes up too high. You're probably making too much of the number of hits. Maybe, we're hitting over and over just to make you think you've got some legitimate interest. And, people are getting a kick out of seeing that someone is finally pointing out your character defects and not letting you hide anymore behind your military service. Like I said, Eissler, Cooke and those guys don't mention in articles in which they're quoted continual references to their military service. For you, it's diarrhea of the mouth. Of course they mention their service in their bio (something you criticized in an earlier post) because to do otherwise would not only be misrepresentative, but would be construed by people like you as unpatriotic or indicative of shame. No, you and only you parade your military service around like a new set of silicone breasts. If it hasn't already happened, CT will desert you, JM will desert you, Foster will desert you, DS will desert you, KB will desert you, Wilson will desert you. Just you wait. Just like CM. Just like PH. Just like MB. Just like MM. Just like JJ. Just like BT. Just like TW. Just like RE. I keep you in my prayers.

[triadmiss]

He learned that dirty tactic from your boys.

[triadmiss]

That's how liberals are - rules and civilty apply only to the enemy. It's not okay for your enemy to use dirty tricks. It's only okay for you to use dirty tricks because you really really really really really really really really care.

[triadmiss]

My last 2 msgs were directed to TWSYF.

[truthwillsetyoufree]

You show me once anywhere anytime I have ever done such a thing. And just who are my boys? I am not affiliated with anyone on this board that I know of.

[truthwillsetyoufree]

And to set the record straight, if you look at WoodlandskNOw, the organization has broad based support from liberals, moderates, and conservatives. Who but unAmerican petty tyrants would favor taxation without representation. Our ancestors dumped tea in a harbor for that, and I'll be damned if we'll let anyone bring that back. That's not liberal, conservative or moderate, That's AMERICAN.

[mdonn76405]

I told you it isn't worth it just ignore. Some of them don't even live in The Woodlands.

[truthwillsetyoufree]

Professional??? You're kidding, right? What's possibly fair about tricking a search engine to point the wrong way. You must have missed church today, huh?

[Wilson]

I personally know ISG and I don't think he linked woodlandskNOw on his blog in order to direct search engine hits his way. He's just not that kind of person and you'll just have to take my word for it. I haven't spoken with him about it, but just knowing him, I think he linked the site on his blog in order to demonstrate that he would like people to read all sides before making up their minds and felt putting the link on his site was a step towards neutrality.

ISG and I disagree vehemently on the issue of the Propositions in the upcoming election. However, it is a little sickening to see him drug through the mud, when I believe his intentions were not sinister.

[mdonn76405]

I couldn't find the link. I'll definitely give ISG the benefit of the doubt.

[Wilson]

I appreciate it :). He's a really *nice* guy. Just a little misguided with these issues, but we shouldn't write him off ;).

[mdonn76405]

Because we consider you a bit of a clown and can't wait to see what you will do next? It is entertaining. Don't get your hopes up too high. You're probably making too much of the number of hits. Maybe, we're hitting over and over just to make you think you've got some legitimate interest. And, people are getting a kick out of seeing that someone is finally pointing out your character defects and not letting you hide anymore behind your military service. Like I said, Eissler, Cooke and those guys don't mention in articles in which they're quoted continual references to their military service. For you, it's diarrhea of the mouth. Of course they mention their service in their bio (something you criticized in an earlier post) because to do otherwise would not only be misrepresentative, but would be construed by people like you as unpatriotic or indicative of shame. No, you and only you parade your military service around like a new set of silicone breasts. If it hasn't already happened, CT will desert you, JM will desert you, Foster will desert you, DS will desert you, KB will desert you, Wilson will desert you. Just you wait. Just like CM. Just like PH. Just like MB. Just like MM. Just like JJ. Just like BT. Just like TW. Just like RE. I keep you in my prayers.

Email sent to my entire mail list to include people who aren't even in The Woodlands, some not even in Texas.

Joe and Mike think that if they get ust to vote NO in November that
they can negotiate a better deal. Surprise, all deals would be off! In
two years Mayor White won't be Mayor and the next legislature is not
likely to give us another chance either. Mike & Joe think they know
more than all Texas legislators that voted unanimously to give us an
opportunity to not be part of Houston and that by insulting all our
local legislators and leaders that somehow someone will give us a
better deal. Joe and Mike are crazy, dishonest and apparently hope we
fail.
I am a Cocran's resident that made a mistake and voted for these two
losers. Since they lost, they have shown how crazy they really are.
Neither my husband or I will ever vote for these losers and will do
everything we can to get them to leave The Woodlands, since they
cannot find anything good here.


Front page
Kemah's Boardwalk Bullet
draws mixed reviews
Sept. 2, 2007 By CAROLYN FEIBEL, Houston Chronicle
Like Houston, Kemah has no zoning.
The Woodlands has standards that prevent abuses like
this. If you follow recommendations of nuts like Mike
Donnelly or Joe Merrill and vote NO on either of two
issues in November you risk being annexed by Houston -
with no zoning and little chance of appeal or having any
say in how taxes are spent.

[IndianSpringsGuy]

Indian Springs guy has linked up the woodlandsknow.com site to his blog for the express reason of getting google to point to his idiot blog instead. What a petty little man.

This is exactly the kind of irrational statements that many people see from this discussion from those who are opposed to the propositions. Face it, the opponents here are not able to rationalize the situation, but are emotionally charged, distrusting and extremist in nature. I am sorry to characterize it that way, but I have been reading what has been said, and the frame of mind remains the same. It is dirty politics and slander. Normal residents are not this way. Some people here are not so negative. I realize there is great fear by some people that others are trying to destroy them. There are other places to live. People do see through all of this slander and emotional outbreak. I direct some people to this site to show them what some people say when they try to influence others on a subject where they cannot tolerate the opinions of others. Every person has the right and obligation to choose what they conclude is right, agree or disagree with someone else. The decision here is for the community and is not to support a personal dislike for the development company, the township area, nor a person. It is not a club either. This is the rationalizing of the future governance of this community.

Can you imagine someone voting aginst those who have worked so hard on this, using logic such as that above to place their vote? I cannot. It is a sad commentary on human nature and is here in clear black and white. It is presented as "the truth will set you free." Well, the truth will lead you to understanding and wisdom, not set you free. It will attach you to things you do not anatifipate being attached to, and it will lead you to feeling better about yourself. It will lead you to being a productive part of the community, not it's adversary. Wisdom dictates evidence before accusation, proof before condemnation and accountability after action. Truth is not known except from wisdom.

There is a lesson here for those who are trying to decide. You guess what that may be.

[mdonn76405]

Again you are right ISG, except almost 15 years ago I went to the mayors office and worked out a deal to incorporate. The developer called me at my home and told me to back off. Tangan also went to Houston just a few years back and was making a deal, and again was told to back off. So explain to me what did TW and RE do that was so much better. My deal was better, I don't know what Cheryl deal was, or if she even got one going before she was told to back off. Look, I have lived in this area for almost 60 years, and have been in the middle for a long time. I will gladly consider your ideas if you can tell me why this deal is better. No elected board and the MAX tax rate allowed by law. The initial 16 Mil, for improvements in Lake Houston, Med Center, The baseball Stadium, and the extension of the Hardy into downtown Houston. You checked the holes in our streets lately?

[Wilson]

The owner of that house is a stubborn fool. What happened to him is nobody's fault but his own.

[triadmiss]

Amen Candleman. To Mdonn, did you almost invent the internet, too, I mean, before Al Gore? Your credibility is SHOT, MDonn.

[FamilyGal]

I'll definitely give ISG the benefit of the doubt.

I know him personally as well and think he is very sincere in what he believes. I don't think, for a second, he would play "dirty pool". Everyone has something they feel strongly about and it isn't always something we are all going to agree on. But, ISG is a good man and has a good head on his shoulders. I wouldn't hesitate to vouch for his character.

[mdonn76405]

I agee FG and I told him so

[FamilyGal]

VISITOR ANALYSIS
Referring Link http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&c...=aDN&q=michael (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=aDN&q=michael) donnelly tcleose&btnG=Search
Host Name ppp-70-243-47-119.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net
Javascript EnabledThis is MY IP address, MDonn. I did a search for you last night to come up with what police station you worked for. Why are you assuming it is IndianSpringsGuy?

ETA: Thank you for deleting your entire post that included my IP address.

[Wilson]

What are you trying to prove? Please don't post IP addresses.

[FamilyGal]

Someone asked you which police department you worked for and you wouldn't answer, so I Googled it and found it. Nothing more. Nothing less. That is when I posted the answer. I knew you had posted it several times before, but it was easier to Google than to wade through 100's of old posts.

You are the one posting e-mail addresses and IP addresses for all to see. (Not that I ever really understood what the big deal is about an IP address. You obviously thought it was IndianSpringsGuy's.)

[Wilson]

Anyone can go to my stat counter and get all the IP's including mine.


That's not true. I think that *you*, as the owner, can see the IP's, but I just went to your site as a regular user and cannot see anyone's IP addresses, including your's. Owners generally have more access than users.

[FamilyGal]

Posting my IP isn't so much the issue as your intent to show that you think others are playing dirty pool. By quoting Candleman and then posting an IP, you are implying that person is playing dirty pool. Being that IndianSpringsGuy was the original target of the dirty pool comment, it also implies that ISG is the one who's IP address you posted. I want to clarify that ISG is not that person and don't want readers of this thread misled. I'm sure you didn't realize that at the time you posted it and it was an honest mistake.

[FamilyGal]

I think the best thing at this point is to get back to the issues you originally wanted to point out. Is there actually a place where the main points are given and are not muddied up with posts that have nothing to do with the issues?

I think it would be a shame if people did not know both sides of the issue because they can't sort it out from the rest of the nonsense.

[triadmiss]

Oh hell I forgot. I have PTSD, I am responsible for the deaths of more people than I care to remember.
I have been exposed to Agent Orange and have had melanoma removed from upper left chest. I have had 6 back surgeries, 4 knee surgeries, hernia, r/shoulder rebuilt by Dr. Eric Price, Sadler, Cancers removed Dr. Amy Farmer sadler. cancer cut out of the left side of my throat by Dr. Stark sadler. Where a moth piece to protect my teeth because I grind my teeth from nightmare about putting American kids, men and women in bags to send home for you to honor for 5 minutes and forget. And yes GD I am A PROUD VETERAN. And Yes TM,DL, CM, I have numerous medals, citations, both from the military and the police departments. So say what ever the hell you want to say about my life, I don't give a S what you think or your idiotic post. No I didn't event the INTERNET. Al Gore did, just ask him. He is as stupid as you are. Put it least he made it to VP. TM you are just a bored housewife, and probably not any good at that. And you can KMA, because I was a stay at home dad.

Dr. Glen Bricken for the PTSD, private practice on Budde RD.


FYI, thank you so very much for your sacrifices for the men and women and children back home, including myself and my family. Thank your family as well. You have done a life's more service and work than I have ever done. I will always regret that I didn't serve my country. Please understand that your service isn't a free ticket to malign others without proof, preferably substantial proof. You have hurt prople with your aggressive tactics during the election. It is apparent, however, that you have suffered far more than most of us have. God bless you and all of the others on this board. And to Storm and TWSYF, keep campaigning honestly with out paranoia and pettiness. I get what your concerns are, but don't think we have a better shot than right now. I also don't worry as you do about the board not being fully elected until a few years from now. The board members are all residents of The Woodlands. They do care about this place. If everything were to fall apart after the proprs pass, then well just have a township. So what? Good luck to all.

[Storm]

And to Storm and TWSYF, keep campaigning honestly with out paranoia and pettiness. I get what your concerns are, but don't think we have a better shot than right now. I also don't worry as you do about the board not being fully elected until a few years from now. The board members are all residents of The Woodlands. They do care about this place. If everything were to fall apart after the proprs pass, then well just have a township. So what? Good luck to all.

Thanks triadmiss. I'm generally not paranoid or petty, so I sure don't want to start behaving that way over this. If I do, you just call me on it, ok? :) We're all neighbors now and we will continue to be when the election is over, regardless of the results. I think that's an important thing to remember as we debate the issues.

Thank you also for acknowledging my concerns and please know that I understand your position as well. I think there are legitimate reasons to vote for each of the propositions and I think there are legitimate reasons not to. I don't want to be annexed by Houston, but for a variety of reasons I believe we'll have other opportunities to negotiate with them. And while I don't doubt that the TCID board members care about The Woodlands, I do believe some of them are intentionally misleading the voters on this election and therefore I'd have a hard time trusting them to govern us. And finally, I just really believe that our community deserves to be a city rather a public service district. The legislation as it is currently written might not make incorporation impossible, but it definitely and unnecessarily makes it difficult.

Happy campaigning!

[Storm]

This is exactly the kind of irrational statements that many people see from this discussion from those who are opposed to the propositions. Face it, the opponents here are not able to rationalize the situation, but are emotionally charged, distrusting and extremist in nature. I am sorry to characterize it that way, but I have been reading what has been said, and the frame of mind remains the same. It is dirty politics and slander. Normal residents are not this way. Some people here are not so negative. I realize there is great fear by some people that others are trying to destroy them. There are other places to live. People do see through all of this slander and emotional outbreak. I direct some people to this site to show them what some people say when they try to influence others on a subject where they cannot tolerate the opinions of others. Every person has the right and obligation to choose what they conclude is right, agree or disagree with someone else. The decision here is for the community and is not to support a personal dislike for the development company, the township area, nor a person. It is not a club either. This is the rationalizing of the future governance of this community.

Can you imagine someone voting aginst those who have worked so hard on this, using logic such as that above to place their vote? I cannot. It is a sad commentary on human nature and is here in clear black and white. It is presented as "the truth will set you free." Well, the truth will lead you to understanding and wisdom, not set you free. It will attach you to things you do not anatifipate being attached to, and it will lead you to feeling better about yourself. It will lead you to being a productive part of the community, not it's adversary. Wisdom dictates evidence before accusation, proof before condemnation and accountability after action. Truth is not known except from wisdom.

There is a lesson here for those who are trying to decide. You guess what that may be.

I agree with you that there are some opponents to TCID's propositions that are at times making irrational, immature and/or defamatory comments when presenting their arguments. There are also some supporters who are doing the same. Like you point out, these pages are filled with examples.

As is the case with almost any ballot initiative, I believe there are valid reasons to support the propositions and valid reasons to oppose them. A discussion on the various facts, issues and consequences helps voters make the choice that is best for them and hopefully best for the community. As you state, "Every person has the right and obligation to choose what they conclude is right, agree of disagree with someone else".

But you also say "the opponents here" - which I assume means those of us on the message board that are opposed to one or more of the propositions - are "not able to rationalize the situation". You go on to say we are "emotionally charged", "distrusting", "extremist in nature", "negative", "cannot tolerate the opinions of others", and engage in "dirty politics and slander". You also imply that we are not "normal residents", paranoid ("fear that others are trying to destroy [us]"), and suggest that we should move ("there are other places to live"). Finally, you conclude that we are not "a productive part of the community".

Wow! Don't you think that's just a wee bit harsh? I may not agree with you on this particular issue, but at least I have not condemned your viewpoints, called you names, assailed your character (although I did call you defensive once), and put a For Sale sign in your front yard.

I am interested only in a honest debate of the issues. I have previously directed two questions to you regarding comments you posted. So far, you have chosen not to answer either of them. I asked:

1. Do you believe VOICE PAC's slogan "Vote Yes to Propositions 1, 2, and 3 to Set The Woodlands Free" is misleading given that prop 3 has nothing to do with the annexation issue? and

2. Do you believe the voters should be given adequate time to review a fully executed Regional Partnership Agreement with Houston prior to the election?

I think these are rational questions and I would sincerely like to know what you think. You are obviously well informed and articulate about the isuues and perhaps you could share some rationale that I am unaware of.

Thanks.

[mdonn76405]

Tim Welbes, president of The Woodlands Development Company

Community News
Woodlands 2008 budget includes wage increases
By Tiffany Williams, Courier staff
10/08/2007
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THE WOODLANDS - Salary increases and added positions within the Community Associations of The Woodlands make up the biggest change between the 2007 budget and the $15.4 million proposed 2008 budget.


"When we put together the 2008 budget, we were looking at new growth," which will be significant, Community Associations General Manager Don Norrell told board members at a joint meeting Tuesday.
If approved by the three governing boards of directors, the associations will budget $822,000 to bump up salaries and benefits next year.
Salaries for association employees increased 2.7 percent this year, and, if approved, staff will receive another 2 percent increase in 2008, said Susan Welbes, director of Human Resources."We are recommending an increase comparable to what other employers are offering," Welbes said at the meeting. The associations studied the pay increases for employees in the Town Center Improvement District (proposed), Grand Prairie, Sugar Land, College Station, Conroe and similar Texas cities.
Other proposed changes include a shift in health insurance carriers from United HealthCare, which proposed a 32 percent rate increase for association employees in the coming year, to Blue Cross Blue Shield, which wanted 12 percent over the current rate.
"Twelve percent is the national trend," Welbes said, citing a study by PricewaterhouseCoopers Health Research Institute that stated health insurance premiums will go up by an average of 9.9 percent.
Staff is recommending directors approve the addition of one position in the Information Technology Department, two positions in Covenant Administration and seven positions to Parks and Recreation. Overall 11 new full-time positions are proposed, 10 of which are because of growth in the community.
Tiffany Williams can be reached at twilliams@hcnonline.com.



©Houston Community Newspapers Online 2007


Has anyone factored in that the TCID will probably become paid Township employees and Board, Mayor , CC or whta ever......... How much will that be?

[IndianSpringsGuy]

Again you are right ISG, except almost 15 years ago I went to the mayors office and worked out a deal to incorporate. The developer called me at my home and told me to back off. Tangan also went to Houston just a few years back and was making a deal, and again was told to back off. So explain to me what did TW and RE do that was so much better. My deal was better, I don't know what Cheryl deal was, or if she even got one going before she was told to back off. Look, I have lived in this area for almost 60 years, and have been in the middle for a long time. I will gladly consider your ideas if you can tell me why this deal is better. No elected board and the MAX tax rate allowed by law. The initial 16 Mil, for improvements in Lake Houston, Med Center, The baseball Stadium, and the extension of the Hardy into downtown Houston. You checked the holes in our streets lately?

Mike this is not about 15 years ago. It is not about 5 years ago. It is about now. Timing means everything. We have politicians who network well. They did an excellent job taking the bull by the horns and tying it down. We do not have the holes in our streets like Houston. The county does help us repair them. I do not count their work as optimum, but precinct 3 has responded to me quite effectively on road issues. We cannot do some things, so I am looking forward to being incorporated, but we could find oursleves deep in taxes as a municipality due to our size and obligations. Houston WILL annex us to pay for those projects if we do not pay for them ourselves. That is business. It is a straightforward budgetary and planning excercise with those who have the influence to make it happen. Cheryl can go to the city of Houston all she wants, but that will not get us any help. She is not able to represent the area nor The Woodlands. She identified some weaknesses that need to be worked on, but beyond that, she is just another resident. We said initially if you recall in the governmental forums, that we must do this together or it all will fall apart. Houston seeing us divided will make the whole thing null and void. They do not want to be engaged in our little battles. They would rather just annex us down the road. That way they control the expenditures and 1% of the sale tax must be put into capital. Trying to fight a real solution and failure to isolate and fix the real issues is only a path to self destruction. Aiming the barrell at your own foot results in a hole in your foot. It does not help you walk at all. I may not have lived here for 60 years, but I have had more years than that on exposure to how to approach an issue. Never have I seen this approach work. It does great in making enemies though and putting that hole in the foot. You have a gift for technical research and hard work. I wish you could apply it for gain and not for loss, for positive forward progress rather than for negative backward tromping.

For me, the issue is not annexation, it is whether we have the where-with-all to self-govern. Houston is watching intently. They may very well not publish the agreement with us just to see if we are really together on it before going forward with it. If the propositions pass, in my estimation, they will go forward. The technicalities are not really important. They can and will be worked out. It is the political solution that is important and has been ALL ALONG. I realize that technicalities are your specialty. I hope you can start to see through the maze and the consequences of trying to divide the residents off from the main stream who really do want to govern themselves. There may be some alternatives to self government, but those are as yet undefined.

[mdonn76405]

Mike this is not about 15 years ago. It is not about 5 years ago. It is about now. Timing means everything. We have politicians who network well. They did an excellent job taking the bull by the horns and tying it down. We do not have the holes in our streets like Houston. The county does help us repair them. I do not count their work as optimum, but precinct 3 has responded to me quite effectively on road issues. We cannot do some things, so I am looking forward to being incorporated, but we could find oursleves deep in taxes as a municipality due to our size and obligations. Houston WILL annex us to pay for those projects if we do not pay for them ourselves. That is business. It is a straightforward budgetary and planning excercise with those who have the influence to make it happen. Cheryl can go to the city of Houston all she wants, but that will not get us any help. She is not able to represent the area nor The Woodlands. She identified some weaknesses that need to be worked on, but beyond that, she is just another resident. We said initially if you recall in the governmental forums, that we must do this together or it all will fall apart. Houston seeing us divided will make the whole thing null and void. They do not want to be engaged in our little battles. They would rather just annex us down the road. That way they control the expenditures and 1% of the sale tax must be put into capital. Trying to fight a real solution and failure to isolate and fix the real issues is only a path to self destruction. Aiming the barrell at your own foot results in a hole in your foot. It does not help you walk at all. I may not have lived here for 60 years, but I have had more years than that on exposure to how to approach an issue. Never have I seen this approach work. It does great in making enemies though and putting that hole in the foot. You have a gift for technical research and hard work. I wish you could apply it for gain and not for loss, for positive forward progress rather than for negative backward tromping.

For me, the issue is not annexation, it is whether we have the where-with-all to self-govern. Houston is watching intently. They may very well not publish the agreement with us just to see if we are really together on it before going forward with it. If the propositions pass, in my estimation, they will go forward. The technicalities are not really important. They can and will be worked out. It is the political solution that is important and has been ALL ALONG. I realize that technicalities are your specialty. I hope you can start to see through the maze and the consequences of trying to divide the residents off from the main stream who really do want to govern themselves. There may be some alternatives to self government, but those are as yet undefined.


ISG, I am not totally against the deal, just put the election off until all the contracts are inked and signed. Ever heard of special election? This thing could have waited until everything is completed. Hey not to sound rude, but I want to sell my PU. It is a good PU. It is a 2007. Give me $30,000 and it is yours. You cannot look at it, or see the options, just take it on blind faith that it is a good PU.
So right me the check, we'll workout the details later, to include the title transfer.

The legislation will meet 2 more times before the moratorium expires.

But the key is that legislation was never needed.

[mdonn76405]

I'll be back in a little while. Gotta go do PT so the Army don't get mad. I did want to say, your Blog looks great, Good Job.

[mdonn76405]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that NON-Profit Corporations are not supposed to get involved in promoting the outcome of an election. It appears Mr. Cooke with the help of his firm maybe stepping over the line. Again the rules don't apply to these people or the parties who want to rule The Woodlands.

I believe that Mr. Cooke did some legal work for the Developer.

It is no wonder 2 Bar Complaints have been filed and 2 more are being filed as you read this.

Orgain, Bell & Tucker, L.L.P.

Partners Nathan M. Brandimarte Leanne Johnson
Lloyd H. Carll D. Allan Jones
Jack P. Carroll Gilbert I. Low
Walter Clay Cooke Brian A. Mills
Curry L. Cooksey Mike L. Painter
John Creighton III J. Hoke Peacock II
R. Kelly Donaldson Gary N. Reger
David J. Fisher S. Donean Surratt
Lance C. Fox Michael J. Truncale
Robert J. Hambright Jo Ben Whittenburg
John W. Johnson Greg C. Wilkins


You are invited by
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Why You Should Vote “FOR” TCID Propositions 1, 2 & 3WHERE: Orgain Bell & Tucker, L.L.P.
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The Woodlands, Texas 77380
WHEN: October 23, 2007
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DBA Community Associations of The Woodlands, Texas,
Board of Directors

Name Position --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Bruce Tough Chairman
Joel Deretchin Vice Chair
Tom Campbell Treasurer
Claude Hunter Secretary
Steve Sanders
Walter Cooke
Jeff Long


The Woodlands Community Association, Inc. Board of Directors Name Position
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Jeff Long President

Tom Campbell First Vice President
Royce Christian Second Vice President
Deborah Sargeant Treasurer
Karen Booren Secretary
Robert Tyson Grogan's Mill, Pos. #1
Peggy Hausman Panther Creek, Pos. #2
Stuart Schroeder Cochran's Crossing, Pos. #3
Susan Vreeland-Wendt Appointed, Pos. #8
Bruce Tough Cochran's Crossing, Pos. #11
John Leftwich Indian Springs, Pos. #12
Cheryl Crandall Tangen At-Large, Pos. #13
Walter Cooke
At-Large, Pos. #14